10 May 2005


'Generally speaking, there is nothing in man that does not also exist in higher stages of animals, vertebrates, and insects. There is the desire to satisfy needs and join in societies, and some form of economy.' Ali Izetbegovic, quoted by Mohamed, my next door blogger. Interesting statment.

I am just wondering, if this statment should be written in a different way. Very roughly, something like, 'Man's nature encompasses/has all the stages of animals, angels and Jin.'


Blogger Alina said...

Forgive my complete ignorance, but...What is Jin? Something demon-like? If it is, well, you're probably very close to the true nature of human beings. But I guess you could also add the ability of telling which is which...As for the divine nature of human beings, that is an extremely old belief, quite easy to identify in almost all religious patterns (at least according to what I've been reading recently)

5/10/2005 11:58:00 am  
Blogger haal said...

elaborate on 'As for the divine nature of human beings, that is an extremely old belief, quite easy to identify in almost all religious patterns'? Will you?

Jin, hmm... who are they? Idon't really know how to say it. But they are not demons in the negative sense.

5/10/2005 12:01:00 pm  
Blogger Alina said...

Several theories of Hinduism, according to which when the soul sets itself free from the chain of reincarnations, it becomes part of the divinity - a small part of divinity being "embedded" in every soul (Atman/Brahman), to start with. Then, the human beings being created to resemble God - in the Christian religion. But according to Eliade's "History of Religious Ideas" several prehistoric populations considered themselves as being of divine origin (created or given birth to by gods). I really cannot remember the areas where they lived, but I will look into it to tell you more. Actually, I think I have to double check all of this data as it is all based on what I can remember from the History of Religion classes back in high-school.:)

5/10/2005 05:38:00 pm  
Blogger Alina said...

Please be more specific about Jin!

5/10/2005 05:39:00 pm  
Anonymous mostafa said...

Jin is a spirit. (pun intended)

5/10/2005 09:00:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

We were brought up to think of Jin as unseen creatures of fire nature. Iblis or satan is among 'this category', but this doesn't mean that all jin are bad or evil. They are bad jin and good jin. Same like human. In fact, Jin is the closest to Human, in the sense they have 'knowing', not like angels who just do what they are ordered. (This is the most accurate definition I could give you. Do I fully understand these things, not fully--not sure if I should care to understand it in the first place.)

5/10/2005 10:00:00 pm  

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