12 Jul 2005

QUDUS

Interesting how the renderings at Loulou brought me to rethinking about my understanding of the 99 names, qualities, essence of God. Less than 10 days ago, my friend A. from NZ asked me what I think of the name 'Qudus' and how I feel it.

Immediately after reading her email I just discarded it. I didn't feel like answering, to be more accurate, didn't feel like feeling what does this Qudus name mean to me. I can instantly feel there is a barrier between Qudus and myself, my state, at that time. I know the answer is for me not for her. I couldn't help but have a half smile because from the many previous interactions with A. before, I know what is the message.

Anyways, I looked up the name Qudus. Skimmed through its meanings in a linguistic way, but didn't get anything that triggered me. Infact, I dont really care about the meaning that is wirtten. Doesn't mean much, right? However, I have been wondering a lot since then about what it really means, means to me. I thus decided to persuade the name to tell me what it means, and what I need to embrace from it . Persuade? Yes. How else can I do this to invoke the quality.

It is very interesting to me, whenever I feel this happiness with the touch of sadness in it, I know that I am back. Glad I am sadly happy.

17 Comments:

Blogger LouLou said...

haal,

Guess what I was reading today?An American friend sent me a link to this article.

7/12/2005 03:55:00 pm  
Blogger Al Sharief said...

haal,

Thanks for making it a bit easier to venture and dare to attempt to rewrite my last paragraph in my last comment @ Loulou renderings.

There is no other entry but to resort to the love of the 99 Names.

I had a rush of joy when you introduced the "... the 99 names, qualities, essence of God."

It is ALSO very interesting to me, that with this rush of joy, I could feel a tiny tiny touch of sadness. I think I could work & embrace the reasons of those tiny touches. One of those reason is the challenge I felt to also think & feel "AL Qudus" in addition, to be able to expand on my last paragraph, "Al Wajid" & "Al Khalek".

First,
I hope that you will be happily happy. :-)

Now, "Al..." is very important, I've noticed that you referred to "Wajid" & I responded with "Al Khalek" when I congratulated you on how you felt and articulated this name -"Al Wajid" .

I did not ask you why you leaving "The / Al" out, but you also never said How God is subjective? kind of respected your space of thinking. It would be nice to know.

"AL" is important as there is almost no escape of the linguistic experience "to feel" any of the 99 names. Even the personal audio-linguistic experience matters. For me I may write "Al Qadooss" to start thinking and feeling this great, yet sacred Name to be able to fully embrace. It is a great skill to be able to persuade the Name and invoke the quality.
All lie under the Art of Acceptance and the personal audio-linguistic experience. I like that you will persuade the Name , it is very creative.

For me, a native Arabic speaker, who mostly thinks in English (90%), would think, understand, feel, embrace and invoke almost all at one shot. Of course there are times when I have to do some work like looking up a word, read some, and research some.

“AL Qadoos” requires some work. Work that should have been done years ago! I will come back with that a bit later.

I also would like to come back with my “Rewrite”, for now I’ll just put what I said in that paragraph at lou’s. I need to refuel :-)

******
I congratulate you for the "constant foundings" business as it is almost: all answers are inclusive...
"Allah is a Wajid (constant foundings)"

...as your 'essence' calls for. Empty to be filled....

If you believe that the "Wajid" founded the 'essence', founded the "Filled essence", and founded the "filling stuff", you have it made. That is Faith. No? Almost Absolute! The quantum here is discreet. Either Full, or Empty.

[[[[[--------
Al Khalek ( The creator )is more of a core static, precise, and in control and total command than "The Wajid" as more dynamic and flexible mode of creation. Each Quality operates at different states of energy that governs a set of restriction to create and "fill" an essence. Is it an essence, "The" essence, a Super essence or "The End of essence" Too much for me, Now I'm Happy with the Ocean ;) ---]]]]]

Will come back.

7/12/2005 05:08:00 pm  
Blogger Al Sharief said...

Gals,
This is amazing,
God & the whole 99 names come to us running, virtually ...
I did not read it yet...
I'll do the home work ...
I'll embrace & I'll try to persuade the Name ...
There is a lot of joy also in doing this.
May be I'm abit too slow...
I'll share the joy...
Cheers!!! G>!? :-)

7/12/2005 05:19:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

Al/the, makes the name specific to God I suppose. Like there are Rahims, but the/Al Rahim is only one. Right? Well, I just left the al/the out because I just don't care if this quality is ONLY for God, of God, or can be said on Human too, or fill up human beings. I mean, I more interested in the name and its meanings, and the al-for me at least- just makes it personal to God.

'... a native Arabic speaker, who mostly thinks in English (90%), would think, understand, feel, embrace and invoke almost all at one shot.'
What does this mean?

I personally dont understand/ think/dream in Arabic though--for whatever reason--and this is great I guess so that I can rest my mind and reach for soemthing else.

Everytime I think of Qudus, I get Ihsan Abd el-qudus, or the Christian prayer (...rabana takadas ismak leyahelou malakoutak.' I so love this 'statment' (for lack of a better word) that I heard during a wedding in a church and found it very touching actually.

7/12/2005 05:38:00 pm  
Blogger LouLou said...

The name AlQudous makes me think of Jerusalem. AlQuds. For no reason other than AlQuds is usually translated to mean The Sanctuary.

I like to think of God as our ultimate Sanctuary - Sanctuary from all fear, evil, hate.After all that's what holiness really is.It's something above human frailties of all types.

7/12/2005 07:11:00 pm  
Blogger LouLou said...

haal,

Rumi gave it a couple of shots too:

"Just as a person is in relation to you a father
and in relation to another either son or brother --
So the names of God in their number have relations:
He is from the viewpoint of the infidel the Tyrant (qaher);
from our viewpoint, the Merciful."
Divan e-Kebir, tr. Annemarie Schimmel

"With us, the name of everything is its outward appearance;
with the Creator, the name of each thing is its inward reality.
In the eye of Moses, the name of his rod was "staff";
in the eye of the Creator, its name was "dragon."
In brief, that which we are in the end
is our real name with God."
Mathnawi I:1239-40, 1244

7/12/2005 07:15:00 pm  
Blogger Al Sharief said...

Good Stuff lou !

hall,
"AL" /The is part of the audio-linguistic personal exoerience anchoring that I was trying to explore. It is for personal refrence.
Fine with me if you leave out "The". Kind of thought so.

How God is subjective? is still standing.

I'm still not done with my home work!
Will come back...

7/12/2005 11:25:00 pm  
Blogger Al Sharief said...

{{'... a native Arabic speaker, who mostly thinks in English (90%), would think, understand, feel, embrace and invoke almost all at one shot.'
What does this mean? }}

I meant one word/quality/value at a time...
Could be slow...& could be too fast ...

7/12/2005 11:37:00 pm  
Blogger Al Sharief said...

"and the al-for me at least- just makes it personal to God."
Is n't that the name of the article:
"Allah is Not a Personal God"
Is that what you meant?

Did you read it? Give me a head start? Right now, I trust you more...

I'm afraid that the article could be "poltically" motivated and I'd rather do my homework first. I do not want another poticized human dimension that will further distract thoughts.

7/12/2005 11:47:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

al-sharief,

I dont know what you are talking about? What is this 'homework' that you talk about?? What are you trusting me with?

Please, try to consolidate your thoughts in one comment.

7/13/2005 12:33:00 am  
Blogger Al Sharief said...

G!
My homework was to lookup a very good reference on the 99 Names that include what Al Ghazali & Ibn Arabi, are saying about the 99 Names , and contemplate. This Refrence was physically away..

Rewrite:
Al Khalek , ( The Creator ) : Creation that is pre-determined by pure God’s Will. Simply “Kon” fa “Yakoon”.

Al Wajid : Constant and Continuous Foundings that could be from nothing or from a form of creation to another form of creation. Regardless of the state of being (Existent or Nonexistent), the absolute Will of God overcome any restriction to create.

The nature of essence is sacred. “Al Quodoos” is the ultimate “pure”, “super essence” NOT EQUAL & NOT SIMILAR to anything “Laysa Ka Methlehe Shai~a”. “Al Quodoos” is a core sacred Name of the “Godly Zat / Being “ . A core quality that transacts “ some Essence” to what “The Quodoos” created, upon his will, determination, and purpose. “Partial Essence” could be transacted to Humans as He created mankind and “ “Nafakh Fie`~he min Rawhe`~he”, The “aura” of “AL Quoddoos” could also leave out a holy and sacred impression on a physical place or space as in “AL Waady AL Muqaddas Towa`~a “ Taha`~a -12 when Moses talked to God, “Kaleem Rabeh”.

“Al Rouh Al Quds” is the most eloquent and soothing of how it was Humanly feasible, to witness, God’s will on earth when Jesus (Issa ibn Maryam) was supported by “Al Rouh Al Quds”.

“Rouh Al Qudos” that is “Rouh Allah”. Spirit of man is created, the Spirit of God is one of the “Godly Zat” Names on which the Existence of the cosmos came to being for God’s Will and Purpose. “Rouh Al Quodos” manifest the “Godly Being” in all creatures.

“Al Qudos” is the sacred undisclosed truth, is Al HaQ, Al Noor that reveals and enlightens.
“Al Qudos” is the sacred undisclosed truth between the “Kaf” and the “Noon”

I've trusted a bit of your objectivty! & I requested your input on the article sent by Loul
Thanks anyway!
SO,
How do you see God Subjective?

I did NOT succeede to "persuade" the Name "Al Quodoos" as I thought I'll be able to. See I looked up my refrence first and it limited me a bit. I need some time to read the whole thing...

7/13/2005 07:00:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

Al-Sharief,
Thanks for the sharing. I read the description of Ghazali before, and I like it. These people are really awesome.

'I did NOT succeede to "persuade" the Name "Al Quodoos" as I thought I'll be able to. '
I guess you gave up pretty easily, and yes, the reading limits the real meaning, plus, what you wrote is a description of the name, not what is the name meant for you...big difference.

Had I been in a better mood, I would have elaborated more on god subjectivity, but not on the article Lou sent. I think it is pretty straight forward. I see you wont let this 'god subjectivity' just pass. maybe you write a post on how god is not subjective.

7/13/2005 11:49:00 pm  
Blogger Al Sharief said...

Yepp The article is straigtforward.

I did not give up as easily as it apears. What I shared is a combination of description, what the Name meant to me , and What I afforded to feel.

The thing is that "Al Quodoos" is one of the (7) Names presenting
"Zaat Allah", where one has to be extreemly carfull in venturing in it on my own at least at this time. This is seriosu stuff.
You could tell how conservative was my Rewrite of Al Wajid & Al Khalek. Not as much "Joy" as I antcipated, yet I respected the refrence & I love Ibn Arabi Guidance.

7/14/2005 02:24:00 am  
Blogger Zettes said...

YHVH

7/16/2005 04:03:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

Not sure why I feel Qudus to me was more of an attempt to 'reconcile' with myself first and to elevate the self one step above the human needs and fixations, and look forward to a higher degree of unity. Doesnt have to do anything with the 'Zat' of Allah, but has to do with my 'Zat' and its relation with others.

7/18/2005 09:40:00 am  
Blogger Al Sharief said...

Thank the God on you, that you did not let go.
Indeed, I respect the sincer "Invoking" effort.

"...,and look forward to a higher degree of unity" With your own "Zat"? If So, I think it's Much too independant to survive the needs & fixations of "others".

"The higher degree of unity" invokes an interesting and reaffirming Name and Quality for Zat Alah that is "AL Ahad" the absolute "highst degree" of "unity".

How's one's Zat relates to Zat Allah?

7/18/2005 02:03:00 pm  
Blogger TARFAH said...

I feel al-qudus as the permission and the journey to coming back home. The returning to the essence.

7/28/2005 10:50:00 am  

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