30 May 2005

TWOSRET

Twosret was first regent for her son Siptah jointly with Chancellor Bay. When the former died, she took the throne for herself, assuming the rule of a Pharaoh and titulary of a Queen (King's Wife). She may have continued to share the rule with Chancellor Bay. Regardless as to whether or not he officially shared the rule, he probably was the power behind the throne. It is believed by some that Bay had Twosret executed when she gave him the keys to the treasury.

This coming info is provided by Diana Petersen--Thanks Diana

TWOSRET (Tausert) (19th Dynasty c.1187-1185 BC)
As with Nitocris and Sobeknofru above, Twosret's reign was during troubled times and lasted less than three years. She was the last Pharaoh of the 19th dynasty. Tausert was the very beloved wife of Seti II even though she was not his first wife and it is believed that it was Seti II who ordered her tomb to be built in the Valley of the Kings; an honour given to very few queens. Again the evidence is sketchy, however the general consensus is that, upon the death of her husband Queen Twosret became co-regent with the king's young son, (Ramesses-Siptah), by another of his wives, and then after his death (approximately six years later) ascended to the throne herself, proclaiming herself Pharaoh."



"Following the death of her husband Seti II in 1194 BC, Twosret eventually took the throne for herself, declaring herself queen and using the full pharaonic titles as Hatshepsut had done some 300 years earlier. During her short two year reign, she sent out expeditions to Sinai and Palestine and built a beautifully decorated tomb in the Valley of the Kings that was later usurped by Setnakhte, first king of the 20th dynasty. In addition to her tomb, work was begun on a mortuary temple south of the Ramesseum, the foundations of which were discovered by Flinders Petrie. Objects with her name have been found at Deir el-Alla in Palestine and Serabit el-Khadem in the Sinai, and a statue of her has been found in Heliopolis. Her name also appears at Abydos, Hermopolis and Memphis. A horde of gold and silver vessels bearing her name has been found at the site of Bubastis. With her death came the end of the line of legitimate successors to Rameses II and thus the 19th Dynasty. "

As per Kabalarians :”Your first name of Twosret has given you a quick-minded, sensitive nature. It gives you a clever, creative ability in art, music, singing, or drama and an appreciation for refined surroundings. Your sociable nature expresses affection, kindness, and thoughtfulness to the extent that it is difficult for you not to be affected by others and governed by your emotions, rather than by logic and reason. As you respond to love and encouragement from others, your romantic and dreamy nature can easily lead you into love affairs. “


So did she steal power? Well, even if she did, it is a normal behaviour. Everyone does it especially in our modern times. I guess, power is so tempting. However, had she known she would be executed, I think she would never have thought about stealing this doomed throne of ancient Egypt.

27 Comments:

Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

Isn't it Twosret?

And are u interested in the pharonic figure or the person usning the Moniker?

5/30/2005 07:35:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

Oh really. So I must have mistyped it. Thanks SM.

No, of course I am interested in knowing what is the arabic name for this ancient women. The one using your Moniker (i like that name) I know her pretty well.

5/30/2005 07:43:00 pm  
Blogger Mohamed said...

Twosret was a Queen Pharaoh who ruled Egypt for a brief period before Ramses the great took over. At the end of her reign a rebellion occured (possibly ending her reign) that was quelled by Setnakhte (source).

5/30/2005 11:01:00 pm  
Anonymous Haal said...

Ah, ok, thanks for the info. :) Interesting. Rise and fall of queens I guess. Sunat al-hayat!

5/30/2005 11:34:00 pm  
Blogger Twosret said...

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5/31/2005 05:28:00 am  
Blogger Twosret said...

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5/31/2005 06:40:00 am  
Anonymous Haal said...

Twosret,

I am interested in knowing about the pharoh queen, that's for sure. Post a history of this queen. I think it will be helpful especially for people who don't know anything about this queen, myself on the top of the line.

'I'm not sure how you claim to know me?'
I claimed I know you from seeing your comments on the blogsphere, and the couple of times you commented on my blog. That's it, and it is more than enough for me to get some hints of the character and this is the limits of my 'knowing' which I don't feel interested to cross with you.

Unlike you, I dont have a negative or positive opinion of your virtual personality. To me you are just another name that comments. Not interested in analyzing your personality or speculate or anything. Not important to me in general.

'I'm very straightforward and don't enjoy the backstopping.
There is no back-stabbing, or gossip loop coming from myside. I also have to believe you if you said you don't do it.

'We don't have to like each other without the need to dedicate Um Kalthoum or Twosret posts.'

Who said anything about liking or disliking you. As I said before, you are just another blogger..maybe less even mainly because you dont have a blog, and I rarely visit SM blog which is polits oriented and I am not interested in that. So the like and dislike, I think you created it for yourself. Don't project them on me.

And yes I don't need to invent a post just to get you. You already come here (IP shows) and I know when you make a comment. Twosret is a queen's name from history that you borrowed, and not the other way around. So if I have a post named 'twosret' it is for this other queen not you.

'If you or Mohamed or anyone else have something to say just e-mail me.'
Again, I have nothing to say, I am not interested in e-mailing people I don't know. En plus, this is a blogsphere for god's sake. Why do you care? Just don't bug other people and they wont bug you.

5/31/2005 09:42:00 am  
Anonymous Haal said...

BTW, why do you drag Mohamed into this? If you assume people form groups aganist another on the blog, then it is unhealthy and sure not my style. Maybe it happened to you and you are just talking from experience.... this is another story. But I gurantee you this is not the case here.

5/31/2005 09:52:00 am  
Blogger Twosret said...

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5/31/2005 03:57:00 pm  
Blogger Twosret said...

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5/31/2005 04:51:00 pm  
Blogger Mohamed said...

You're making very wrong assumptions. Betray is a very big word that I would not dare do. You and your friends are assuming things about me, which are incorrect.

There is one thing you should know, and that the owner of this blog is smart beyond belief, and you just don't wanna give her credit, and you don't wanna admit it. Every now and then she stuns me with her intelligence, and for you to take things as how they look on the surface is utter naiveness.

Haal, I suggest you remove this post all together. What started out as a simple question about some Pharaoh turned into a very silly exchange. If I were you, I'd remove this post all together and save some people from the lack of sleep at night.

5/31/2005 08:22:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

(This is Twosret's... I removed the section where she was disrespectful to another blogger)

Haal can go in circles and play with words and post or attack directly or indirectly all female bloggers as she wish. What she sow she harvest. She was never my concern and I don't know her or share anything in common with her.

This is just the virtual world and with a click anyone can easily disconnect. I will not be checking back and I hope that sums it up.

Goodbye Ba2a

5/31/2005 08:55:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

Twosret,

You admitted many things in your previous comments the least of which is that you gossiped and back-stabbed me with other bloggers--which is fine w/me I don't care. But please, dont come here victimize yourself and claim that your are the only upfront and bla bla. Plus, you dragged yourself here for no particular reason without invitation with a silly excuse. I never asked you to write anything about Twosret. You proposed that.

As for the last of your naiive comments, I never attacked other female bloggers. En plus, I hardly commented on any blog, or come after others in an immature attitude like you do. So, if you find yourself humiliated on my blog, then it is what You harvested. plus, illy 3alla rasou bat7a.

5/31/2005 09:15:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

because you are irrespectful. no one is calling you names, yet you do. plus, i thought you said you won't come here again.

5/31/2005 09:17:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

you reverted back to your usual attitude, twosret. yeah, go ahead and delete your nasty comments so no one will know your real attitude.

5/31/2005 09:22:00 pm  
Anonymous Twosret said...

We come from different cultures,
When you act disrespectful you lose your self respect immediately no one can take that away that from you.

You can play with your blog delete, remove, amend comments as you please. Your actions are there you can't delete them.

In real life it won't work for both of you time will only show.

You are very right this is a very sick place and should never be visited again.

When you grow up you will understand what I'm talking about until then.

Good Riddance

5/31/2005 10:42:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

I assume you are directing this last comment to yourself. I totally agree. Great self analysis. Work on them.

I wish that you just stick to your words. this is the 3rd time you say you wont come here again, yet you do come and comment. I wonder why!

Last thing, if you can't play tough and unable to get urself out of the trap you created with your messy deeds and gossips, , then it is better that you stop gossiping about people--as you previously admitted in the posts you deleted.

Enjoy! and please don't come here again.

5/31/2005 10:50:00 pm  
Blogger Alina said...

Well, "the doomed throne of ancient Egypt" was one of the most tempting forms of power at the time. People would kill for less than that! Then again, anyone holding that amount of power was exposed to take over attempts, assassins and a whole range of other dangers without steeling the throne. Moreover, could you be interested in someone who never made it to the history books?

6/01/2005 05:00:00 pm  
Anonymous Diana Petersen said...

Haal,

I found few things but not much. It adds to her mystery. During my studies she came up as a name few times.

"TWOSRET (Tausert) (19th Dynasty c.1187-1185 BC)
As with Nitocris and Sobeknofru above, Twosret's reign was during troubled times and lasted less than three years. She was the last Pharaoh of the 19th dynasty. Tausert was the very beloved wife of Seti II even though she was not his first wife and it is believed that it was Seti II who ordered her tomb to be built in the Valley of the Kings; an honour given to very few queens. Again the evidence is sketchy, however the general consensus is that, upon the death of her husband Queen Twosret became co-regent with the king's young son, (Ramesses-Siptah), by another of his wives, and then after his death (approximately six years later) ascended to the throne herself, proclaiming herself Pharaoh."



"Following the death of her husband Seti II in 1194 BC, Twosret eventually took the throne for herself, declaring herself queen and using the full pharaonic titles as Hatshepsut had done some 300 years earlier. During her short two year reign, she sent out expeditions to Sinai and Palestine and built a beautifully decorated tomb in the Valley of the Kings that was later usurped by Setnakhte, first king of the 20th dynasty. In addition to her tomb, work was begun on a mortuary temple south of the Ramesseum, the foundations of which were discovered by Flinders Petrie. Objects with her name have been found at Deir el-Alla in Palestine and Serabit el-Khadem in the Sinai, and a statue of her has been found in Heliopolis. Her name also appears at Abydos, Hermopolis and Memphis. A horde of gold and silver vessels bearing her name has been found at the site of Bubastis. With her death came the end of the line of legitimate successors to Rameses II and thus the 19th Dynasty. "

As per Kabalarians :”Your first name of Twosret has given you a quick-minded, sensitive nature. It gives you a clever, creative ability in art, music, singing, or drama and an appreciation for refined surroundings. Your sociable nature expresses affection, kindness, and thoughtfulness to the extent that it is difficult for you not to be affected by others and governed by your emotions, rather than by logic and reason. As you respond to love and encouragement from others, your romantic and dreamy nature can easily lead you into love affairs. “

This is all what I found on her.

6/02/2005 04:29:00 am  
Blogger haal said...

Kayla, welcome back. Long time. I like how practical you are. Yes, had she not made it to history book, the majority of the people would have never cared. However, there are very simple people, totally unknown, who are far more interesting than those in history books.

Diana, Thanks for the info. Very interesting indeed. do you study egyptology?
I love the name analysis. Interesting. SO every name carries a certain aura of energy around it that gives it its characteristics and nature. Amazing!

6/02/2005 09:54:00 am  
Anonymous diana petersen said...

Haal,

You are welcome, The thing about Twosret that gets Egyptologist's attention the fact that she declared herself King (Pharaoh) and that is a very gutsy, bold move. Hatshepsut was on the same scale of power but Twosret time was very unruly.

There was no way for her step son to rule. I think he was sick and dying also.

I will check out about names analysis and look up your name for you. If you are Egyptian please let us know if you find out more about your beautiful queens.

Regards,
Diana

6/02/2005 12:30:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

So she is a pioneer. That's cute.

I love this name analysis. Yes, please, look up my name for me, or let me know where to find that. I am interested in that 'science of names' if you want to call it so.

6/03/2005 10:40:00 am  
Blogger Alina said...

Of course there were a lot of more interesting people, yet we know nothing of them! Such a waste!

Yeah, been very busy with exams, nothing else. Unlike others, I really like "talking" to you and I don't need you to agree with me to have a constructive chat :)). Sorry, a bit bitchy mood :)

6/03/2005 03:31:00 pm  
Blogger haal said...

Kayla,
Very cute :) I mean this firey nature of yours is funny. heheheh Thanks.

But hey, you didnt write the post you promised Mohamed and myself will write ? Changed your mind?

6/03/2005 11:04:00 pm  
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great entry. Looking forward to the next one.

10/22/2010 06:39:00 am  
Anonymous NECHOII said...

QUEEN TWOSRET was a miserable failure as a PHARAOH. During her brief reign ( and that of her predessor KING SIPTAH ), LIBYAN tribes invaded EGYPT and took over the western and central DELTA, killing Egyptians and burning Egyptian towns. To the east, barbarian tribes known as the SEA PEOPLES attacked and destroyed the city states of CANAAN resulting in the Egyptian Empire being lost there ! The weak, vacillating, incompetant,(ailing?) QUEEN TWOSRET failed completely to stop these invaders. It was an army general named SETHNAKTE who overthrew TWOSRET in a REVOLUTION. SETHNAKTE then became PHARAOH and managed to restore some order in EGYPT. It was his son, the great RAMSES III who EXPELLED THE LIBYAN AND SEA PEOPLE INVADERS, REESTABLISHED THE EMPIRE IN CANAAN AND RESTORED EGYPT TO GREATNESS.

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